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I saw this on the DHS website:  We should voice our opinions about our ex's who have in home daycares and how they are hurting the system


Public Hearing to set Child Support Guidelines
Des Moines, IA - Three public hearing have been set to gather input on setting guidelines for establishing court-ordered child support payments to custodial parents.  The Iowa Child support advisory comm will hold publice hearings in Carroll, Marion, and Des Moines to solicit comments on revising the IA Supreme Court's Child Support Guidelines.  Recommendations will be sent to the court, which reviews the guidelines every four years.  In addition to public hearings, written comments may be submitted to the Child Support Advisory committee, 400 SW 8th Street, Suite H, Des Moines, IA 50309-4633.  Written comments must be received by March.

Public Hearings will be
Thursday Feb 3, 5:30-7:30 pm at the Marion Public Library, 1095 Sixth Ave, Marion, Room A/B.
Tuesday Feb 15, 5:30-7:30 pm at the Des Moines Public Library East, 2559 Hubbell Ave Des Moines.
Thursday March 3, 5:30-7:30 pm at the Swan House, 1024 E 12th St, Carroll.



LET OUR VOICES BE HEARD...Lets get our comments sent to the Advisory Committe today....We need to take a stand on these moms with in home daycares and making sure the KIDS get the support we are paying for!!!!
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Must  be received by March 3rd

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Exactly, member participation is required to force change!!!

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Forums to focus on child support issues

Mike Wiser | Posted: Tuesday, February 1, 2011 2:00 am

                       

DES MOINES — Bryan Iehl believes Iowa’s child support system is fixed against people like him.

       

That’s why the divorced father of an 11-year-old and founder of IowaFathers will be paying close attention to what begins this week.

       

That’s when the Iowa Child Support Advisory Commission will hold a town hall meeting in Marion to solicit ideas on what changes, if any, need to be made to the guidelines judges follow when they order child support payments.

http://qctimes.com/news/local/article_0a53539a-2db9-11e0-815c-001cc4c002e0.html

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"Political reasons have not the requisite certainty to afford juridical interpretation. They are different in different men. They are different in the same men at different times. And when a strict interpretation of the Constitution, according to the fixed rules which govern the interpretation of laws, is abandoned, and the theoretical opinions of individuals are allowed to control its meaning, we have no longer a Constitution; we are under a government of individual men, who for the time being have the power to declare what the Constitution is, according to their own views of that it ought to mean." Dred Scott v.Sanford, 19 How. 393, 620 (1857) (Curtis, J., dissenting).
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Iowa is in a recession with high unemployment rates and reduced incomes so what does the Child Support Recovery Unit (CSRU) want to do? Raise child support based upon the minority (those paying the bare minimum). The CSRU is a typical bureaucratic governmental agency showing they only care about self-preservation.
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"Political reasons have not the requisite certainty to afford juridical interpretation. They are different in different men. They are different in the same men at different times. And when a strict interpretation of the Constitution, according to the fixed rules which govern the interpretation of laws, is abandoned, and the theoretical opinions of individuals are allowed to control its meaning, we have no longer a Constitution; we are under a government of individual men, who for the time being have the power to declare what the Constitution is, according to their own views of that it ought to mean." Dred Scott v.Sanford, 19 How. 393, 620 (1857) (Curtis, J., dissenting).
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I am being petitioned for an increase in child support.  My question is:  Is voluntary overtime pay calculated into child support payments?  My overtime is not guaranteed and was fortunate enough to get it last year and now I'm being petitioned.  I don't think what you could potentially earn should be considered for child suppport.  There is no guarantee I will be able to work any this year and if they base my support off of last years wages, it will be tough to maintain. Any thoughts or ideas on this?

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Feels slightly odd to be a mother on iowafathers, but here I am.. My ex-husband has primary physical care and I get visitation.  It ended up this way because when our divorce was finalized, I had a job and had to work 300-400 hours of overtime per year.  Since then, I have left that job for another one where I have very little overtime and get every other weekend off.

I'm here for alot of reasons, but I guess, right now we are reviewing child support for the first time since the original decree.  My ex has estimated my income to be $8000 more than what I made on my 2010 tax return.  (At most, $3000 of that was overtime). He wants to include my overtime.  Last year, I voluntarily worked some overtime to make ends meet.  Sadly, I had to give up some overnights with my kids to do this.  My ex would never let me make those overnights up.

Well, now, he has agreed to let me make the overnight up if the overtime is FORCED. (which happens mayyyybe 2-3 times a year).  Anyway, if the overtime is voluntary, there's no make-up.

So, my thing with this is, he's trying to figure in overtime.. but yet, he won't let me make up the time with my kids if I work it.  I'm not even guaranteed to get overtime.  So, I guess my question is the same as daytonadino's... can they figure overtime into child support payments?  Well, I know they can, because they did it to me in the initial decree... but now that I really don't have to work it if I don't want to, and it's not guaranteed or expected, how can they count it???


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Overtime is considered income.  The Iowa Supreme Court doesn't care if it's guaranteed or not.  This is something that everyone should be complaining about at these Child Support Advisory Committee Meetings.  Some states, like Florida for example, don't count overtime into the formula. 
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"Political reasons have not the requisite certainty to afford juridical interpretation. They are different in different men. They are different in the same men at different times. And when a strict interpretation of the Constitution, according to the fixed rules which govern the interpretation of laws, is abandoned, and the theoretical opinions of individuals are allowed to control its meaning, we have no longer a Constitution; we are under a government of individual men, who for the time being have the power to declare what the Constitution is, according to their own views of that it ought to mean." Dred Scott v.Sanford, 19 How. 393, 620 (1857) (Curtis, J., dissenting).
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I thought they only counted Mandatory Overtime I was under the impression it was written into the law ? Not that they would actually follow it anyway....

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Marion Public Meeting Recap
February 4, 2011
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                        Hello,

 

I want to thank everyone who attended the first public hearing on the child support guidelines in Marion. Participants did an excellent job in voicing their concerns and making suggestions for change. 

 

In my opinion, the overall theme of the participants was as follows:  

  1. The child support guidelines are set too high.
  2. Overtime should not be included in setting the child support amount
  3. Modifications take too long, especially when they are initiated due to economic conditions. 
  4. There needs to be some accountability regarding how child support is allocated towards the children. 

Child Support Committee Meeting Reminder:

 

The following meetings remain for members to voice concerns with the current child support guidelines.  Greg Hughes and Matt Weichers will be present on the committee.  I will be present in the audience.  I look forward to seeing everyone there!    

 

   * Tuesday, Feb.15, 5:30-7:30 p.m. at the Des Moines Public Library East, 2559 Hubbell Ave, Des Moines.

 

   * Thursday, March 3, 5:30-7:30 p.m. at the Swan House, 1024 E 12th St, Carroll.

 

In addition to the public hearings, written comments may be submitted to the Child Support Advisory Committee, 400 SW 8th Street, Suite H, Des Moines, IA 50309-4633. Written comments must be received by March 3.

 

You may also email your suggestions to Matt Weichers at matt@IowaFathers.com, or Greg Hughes, who serves as co-chair to the Child Support Advisory Committee at blackbelthughes@yahoo.com.

 

You may also call Greg Hughes at 319-431-5640 with any questions or concerns.

 


Sincerely,
Bryan Iehl
Founder & President

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"Political reasons have not the requisite certainty to afford juridical interpretation. They are different in different men. They are different in the same men at different times. And when a strict interpretation of the Constitution, according to the fixed rules which govern the interpretation of laws, is abandoned, and the theoretical opinions of individuals are allowed to control its meaning, we have no longer a Constitution; we are under a government of individual men, who for the time being have the power to declare what the Constitution is, according to their own views of that it ought to mean." Dred Scott v.Sanford, 19 How. 393, 620 (1857) (Curtis, J., dissenting).
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One more concern for the comity is why if you are happily together with your current partner raising children those children aren't entitled to the same porpotion of your check and the children you pay child support on.
example one child then child support is around 25% of your pay
two children and its around 33-34%
three or more its around 50%

if you have 3 children and two live with you then you have to give up around 25% of your check to your ex. so if you make $1000 a month you pay $250

why can't it be figured the same way if you payed child support on all three. example you have 3 children so 50% of your income goes to them thats $500 a month
you are raising two of them and pay your ex for one so that $500 is split 3 ways 2 shares you keep for the two you are raising and 1 share to the cp of the third child making your payment $166.67

I guess it really isn't about making sure the children have what they need is it?
it's really about getting the numbers taken in as high as possible.
Heck with my way they can even collect the $500 and send you a check for your cut each month so they can report even bigger numbers and fleece the taxpayers even more.



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Bryan,

I am new to this site and Thank you so much for your efforts and trying to make child support equal and fair. I pray that you were heard and the new revision with go into effect.


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Chad,

I agree with you totally its not about the child. The system is not fair by any means and we as men suffer.Chad they can only take up 34% if you have two children?
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the percentages I used were about average, it is all up to some cooky worksheet I'm sure we payed some consultant thousands of dollars to make.
but for one child it is about 1/4 your income. for 2 about 1/3 and for 3 or more its half. of course there are variables.

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Chad,

What would the variable be besides income?


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the worksheet is in the links. you can fill it out and see what support should be. but some of the variable are the cps income, how many overnights. healthcare, ect.
the judge also has some leway. just one thing to remember never ever go by what CSRU says should be paid and make them take it to a judge.

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I am assuming the new guideline's have come out ? Were there any changes worth noting ? Ex is trying for more money as I type.

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