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Date:Tue, 27 Mar 2007 21:11:34 -0700 (PDT)
From:"IowaFathers.com"
Subject:SF 507 - Please bring up for a vote!
To:michael.gronstal@legis.state.ia.us
CC:jeff.danielson@legis.state.ia.us, bill.dotzler@legis.state.ia.us
   

Senator Gronstal,
 
Thank you for speaking with our group at the Capitol on Monday, March 26, 2007.  We were thrilled to hear you state that you are going to bring Senate File 507 up for a vote on the Senate Floor. Do you know what day it may be debated on the floor? Please advise at your convenience!
 
Over the past six months, IowaFathers.com is averaging over 30,000 views a month. A strong sign of our growing movement towards equality. I'm going to post this email along with your response on our website. Our members are eagerly awaiting your response!  You may access this forum online by clicking on the following link: http://forums.iowafathers.com/tool/post/iowafather/vpost?id=1764757&trail=60#49 
 
I've cc'd Senator Dotzler and Senator Danielson, who are representatives in my area and supportive of this bill. Children need equal access to both parents and SF 507 will allow for this to happen.
 
Thank you again for agreeing to bring Senate File 507 up for a vote! 
 
Sincerely,
Bryan Iehl
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Waterloo, IA  50704-2884

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Tony Taylor send some photos from the lobbying effort.

 

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Good email, Bryan! 

Senator Dotzler and Senator Danielson, are in my area or within the area of family members.  I've always like Dotzler and I've heard good things about Danielson, although he is relatively new in the legislature. ALL we have been asking for is time with our children and EQUALITY. 

THANK YOU Senator Danielson and Senator Dotzler for supporting Senate File 507!
  Now if we can just get the Iowa House to embrace this much needed judicial change!
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http://www.iowafathers.com/2007_lobbying.htm 


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"Political reasons have not the requisite certainty to afford juridical interpretation. They are different in different men. They are different in the same men at different times. And when a strict interpretation of the Constitution, according to the fixed rules which govern the interpretation of laws, is abandoned, and the theoretical opinions of individuals are allowed to control its meaning, we have no longer a Constitution; we are under a government of individual men, who for the time being have the power to declare what the Constitution is, according to their own views of that it ought to mean." Dred Scott v.Sanford, 19 How. 393, 620 (1857) (Curtis, J., dissenting).
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Are our tax payer dollars being used illegally by organizations funded by the State of Iowa?  You be the judge:

Charlotte Nelson  MARCH 15, 2007
Against    IA. Commission on the Status of Women



Date:Wed, 28 Mar 2007 10:25:52 -0700 (PDT)
From:"IowaFathers.com"  
Subject:SF 507
To:"Charlotte Nelson"
   

Ms. Nelson,
 
I noticed you declared against Senate File 507.  Why would your organization lobby against legislation that will provide children the opportunity for maximized physical contact between both parents? 
 
Sincerely,
Bryan Iehl
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Waterloo, IA  50704-2884
 
 
Her response:
 
Subject:RE: SF 507
Date:Wed, 28 Mar 2007 12:55:45 -0500
From:"Nelson, Charlotte [DHR]"  
To:"IowaFathers.com"
CC:"Appel, Staci [LEGIS]" , "Carla Espinoza" , "Cindy Winckler" , FJJGIUNTA@MSN.COM, holly@scifl.org, jolsen@marion.k12.ia.us, "kim painter" , Send an Instant Message wissingm@yahoo.com, "Mike Whitlatch" , "Reed, Walter [DHR]" , "sue mullins" , Tom.Carnahan@iwd.state.ia.us, pat.ward@legis.state.ia.us
   

Mr. Iehl:

 

The Iowa Commission on the Status of Women (ICSW) is supportive of a child’s physical contact with both parents, when it is appropriate.  The opposition is to the presumption, which should not be the rule in cases where there has been domestic violence.  The ICSW believes that judges should in all cases determine what is truly in the best interest of the child. 

 

Sincerely,

 

Charlotte

 

Charlotte Nelson

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Iowa Commission on the Status of Women

Department of Human Rights

Lucas State Office Building

Des Moines, IA 50319

515/281-4467 or 800/558-4427

Charlotte.Nelson@iowa.gov

http://www.state.ia.us/dhr/sw

 

 

Email correspondence to and from this address may be subject to the Iowa Public Records Law, Code of Iowa Chapter 22, and may be disclosed to third parties.




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Date:Wed, 28 Mar 2007 11:22:38 -0700 (PDT)
From:"IowaFathers.com" support@iowafathers.com
Subject:RE: SF 507
To:"Nelson, Charlotte [DHR]" , "IowaFathers.com"
CC:"Appel, Staci [LEGIS]" , "Carla Espinoza" , "Cindy Winckler" , FJJGIUNTA@MSN.COM, holly@scifl.org, jolsen@marion.k12.ia.us, "kim painter" , Send an Instant Message wissingm@yahoo.com, "Mike Whitlatch" , "Reed, Walter [DHR]" , "sue mullins" , Tom.Carnahan@iwd.state.ia.us, pat.ward@legis.state.ia.us
   

Ms. Nelson,
 
The law still allows judges to protect the children in cases where there is domestic abuse or when such an arrangement would put the children in harms way.  If that is your only concern, please revisit the bill as it truly is a non-issue given the following language: " If the court finds by clear and convincing evidence that joint physical care is not in the best interest of the child and denies the request for joint physical care, the determination shall be accompanied by specific findings of fact and conclusions of law that the awarding of joint physical care is not in the best interest of the child.”
 
“Children with two parents who actively and positively engage in their life by providing financial support, love, guidance and discipline, have a greater chance for success than children who receive an active involvement from only one parent”  – former Iowa Governor, Thomas J. Vilsack.
 
"Part of ending sexism involves eliminating the inhuman practice of awarding a parent ‘visitation’ to his or her own child" -- Karen DeCrow, past president of the National Organization for Women (NOW).
 
Sincerely,
Bryan Iehl
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Waterloo , IA  50704-2884

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"Political reasons have not the requisite certainty to afford juridical interpretation. They are different in different men. They are different in the same men at different times. And when a strict interpretation of the Constitution, according to the fixed rules which govern the interpretation of laws, is abandoned, and the theoretical opinions of individuals are allowed to control its meaning, we have no longer a Constitution; we are under a government of individual men, who for the time being have the power to declare what the Constitution is, according to their own views of that it ought to mean." Dred Scott v.Sanford, 19 How. 393, 620 (1857) (Curtis, J., dissenting).
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Isn't Charlotte acting outside the scope of her job responsibilities?


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"Political reasons have not the requisite certainty to afford juridical interpretation. They are different in different men. They are different in the same men at different times. And when a strict interpretation of the Constitution, according to the fixed rules which govern the interpretation of laws, is abandoned, and the theoretical opinions of individuals are allowed to control its meaning, we have no longer a Constitution; we are under a government of individual men, who for the time being have the power to declare what the Constitution is, according to their own views of that it ought to mean." Dred Scott v.Sanford, 19 How. 393, 620 (1857) (Curtis, J., dissenting).
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Non-custodial parents networking together to make a difference!

 

 

 

 

 

2007 Lobbying at the Iowa State Capitol

 

March 26, 2007:

 

Our group speaking with Senator Danielson.

 

Our group speaking with Senator Danielson.

 

Our group speaking with Senator Wood.

 

 

Our group speaking with Senator Hartsuch.

 

Our group speaking with Senator Appel.

 

 

Our group speaking with Senator Heckroth.

 

Picture going up the stairs in the Capitol.

 

Picture outside the door of the Iowa Senate.

 

Group talking to Steve Falck (formerly of Gov. Vilsack's staff).

 

 

Inside view of the Iowa Senate (determining which legislators were available).

 

Kathryn talking with Rep. Abdul-Samad

 

The following pictures are from the House Lobby Room where he met with Representative Ako Abdul- Samad.  Rep. Abdul-Samad understands that change is needed, understands our civil rights argument, and wants to work with our group to ensure children have two parents involved in their life.


 

 

 

 

 


 
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"Political reasons have not the requisite certainty to afford juridical interpretation. They are different in different men. They are different in the same men at different times. And when a strict interpretation of the Constitution, according to the fixed rules which govern the interpretation of laws, is abandoned, and the theoretical opinions of individuals are allowed to control its meaning, we have no longer a Constitution; we are under a government of individual men, who for the time being have the power to declare what the Constitution is, according to their own views of that it ought to mean." Dred Scott v.Sanford, 19 How. 393, 620 (1857) (Curtis, J., dissenting).
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Some reader comments to Dr. Stephen Baskerville and Bryan Ieh's article in the DSM Register.

http://www.desmoinesregister.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=2007703200357

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"American fathers are led down a primrose path every day in our family courts, often with disastrous legal results. They wind up in the Land of Gender Bias, where they are systematically stripped of their rights, often without the slightest idea of why it is happening to them.

"If you think the mother-father disparity is outrageous, consider the sexual abuse syndrome, and how it affects visitation and custody disputes. Here, the judicial impotence and chronic blindness to men's rights would appall you.

"Courts are supposed to approach cases of child custody, support payments, and visitation rights in what we call a gender-neutral posture. It sounds fair, and it is fair. But it is a myth. Judges are not enforcing these gender laws fairly, and few seem to care.

"We will see more of these problems until fathers organize to demand fairer treatment. So get it together dads: You have a legitimate legal beef and you need to make this a public issue. Right now the courts don't hear you."

- Judge Judy Sheindlin,

We only need the courts and CSRU involved when fathers (mostly) don't willingly provide for their children. Over one billion dollars are owed to children in Iowa where non-support is a felony class-D. If the laws meant anything the prison would be full of deadbeats. Instead we are lucky if dad gets to serve a week in jail for ignoring his economic obligations to his children while moms are working several jobs or being treated as an indentured servant by the state if she dares to turn the state for aid because she feels that it is important that the children have a parent available and not always in the work force.

Maja Rater
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For sake of kids, pass law presuming joint custody

Joint physical custody is not about the kids. It is about eliminating child support obligations for dads. Fathers Rights groups have been trying for years to get rid of child support obligations and now they have found a new way to get rid of it.
CSRU was created to collect child support from dads unwilling to support their children. It has now turned into an agency which tries any which way to lower the child support obligations to some ridiculous amount. In the meantime tax payers are left to hold the bag. Tax payers demanded an end to Aid to Dependent Children because they were fed up with having to support these millions of children fathers had abandoned. Instead they ended up with paying more in subsidies to these abandoned families. If these fathers really cared about their children they would be upset about the $107 billion owed across the nation in unpaid child support leaving children in poverty and neglect. Homelessness is rising in Iowa among children and single moms. No it is all about avoiding their own responsibilities abilities to their children.
Laws mean nothing in this country or we would not have this child support debt. There are plenty of laws in this nation but they are ignored. The court ordered child support orders are not worth the paper they are written on.
Physical joint custody will solve all the social problems in this country, right? Not eliminating poverty by paying an adequate child support payment? In Europe they are not short of single moms but they don't allow abandonment of the children. They have generous subsidies which they don't envy the children as we do in this country.
We don't mind spending all this money on fatherhood programs which cuddle deadbeat fathers and turn then into victims while ignoring the plight of the children who are truly the victims. We don't mind spending billion of tax payer money ignoring the laws holding fathers economically responsible for their children. And now fathers have come up with another way to totally leave their economic obligations to their children to society at large.

Maja Rater
Casey, Iowa

 
 
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I want to point out that Maja Rater is on the Child Support Advisory Committee appointed by our Democratic Governor!  Do you think she will come at this with an unbiased perspective?

I don't believe she should be on the Child Support Advisory Committee!
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Having her on the commity completly disolves all credibility of that commity. If they really wanted to make a serious effort at comming up with a fair and viable sulution to the problem they would have had an even mix of CPs, NCPs, and nuetral members, Then and only then would their findings have even a hint of credibility. Untill our governer makes an honest effort we will not consider him and honest man. Although with some of his descisions I wonder if he even has the male plumbing.


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My only question is whether the Governor actually chose this person for the committee on the basis of knowing her personally or from getting recommendations from his staff?  This only goes to reason that Ms. Rater has only seen one side of life.  She might do well to attend some of the Non Custodial meeting.  Therefore having a more well rounded perspective of the whole picture that children have to deal with everyday of their lives.  And some of the emotional scars that are left because of the current unfair  policies that are in place. When most people come to this site to "Check It Out" some draw to their perspective that we make this out about just the Non Custodial parent, When in fact all of us have one thing in mind. what is truly best for the child.

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Urgent Message SF 507

The Democratic leadership in the Senate is putting a block on SF 507. Please e-mail and call Michael Gronstal the Senate Majority Leader and ask him to bring SF 507 to the floor for debate and vote. Also contact all Democrate Senators. Start with the ones in your district.

Michael Gronstal :
                        Home phone     712-328-2808 leave polite message
                        Capitol Phone   515-281-3901 leave polite message
                        e-mail             michael.gronstal@legis.state.ia.us
                   

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NO SURPRISES HERE.

Democrats can be counted on to stand against the family unless it is same sex or without the father.

What's the point of calling the legislature now?  We already had some dedicated members talk to them in person.  Since we delivered a "small" group we were less effective than if we had delivered a few hundred. 

All you can do now is to get angry - but you can get even later.  Why do you all think I keep buying autodialers?  I don't do it because I enjoy spending money.  I do it because now I have an autodialer in DSM capable of dialing almost 4,000 people per day (I just bought two more line cards today).  Don't you realize how much you can do to a sitting legislator by turning on a machine in their district?  I can call every registered voter in Janet Peterson's district in 2 days!  I can turn it on again and again so they all get reinforced messages that she is a very bad legislator who obviously hates fathers. 

My overall point is I keep showing the way we can make a difference but very few others trust me enough to what needs to be done.  We need to start serious personal donations to our own cause.  Dig deep and buy some more autodialers so you always have the ability to make it hurt in a way they understand - by getting them voted out! 

You all do what you want but I am doing everything I can to build DSM with my own autodialer.  If anyone is really interested in biting the bullet and buying an autodialer I can help you get one for a great price on Ebay and Charlie Romstad will set it up for you.  People can get with Tony Taylor and stand with him in front of the courthouse protesting.  Tony now has a local cable access show in DSM dealing with our issues.


Or, we can get just upset when legislators blow us off.  I like getting back at the system and trying to change it.  There are consequences for a Democratic Party victory and we are seeing them up close and personal.  The Democrats are not going to help us with our issues. 

Do we get mad???  Or do we get even???



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Iowa's new slogan

A state that used to be a great place to grow up

Democrates by blocking this bill you are helping destroy a once great place to raise children and turn it into another slum with unsupervised kids running amock

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It doesn't sound as though Maja is happy either. We do have a better law than most states, but it sure would be nice to get the presumption. I wrote to the Archbishop again today. I don't know if will do any good. The Iowa Catholic COnference was supposed to come out and publicly support this bill. I haven't seen that. It's still not over yet, but we definately need to get stronger. If we do lose this battle, we need to consider education projects this summer and fundraising. I'm not talking about bake sales or anything, but I do have some ideas. We need money and we need some attorneys. That's a pretty tall order, I know.


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We have the attorney we just need to get more activists and money for campaigns. 

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I had an idea to desine a flag and some t-shirts to sell. this would raise money and get the word out about our plight.


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I was thinking more about having a run. My friend, who lives in New Mexico, goes to these things and it sounds as though they draw decent crowds. They have runs for breast cancer and all sorts of other things. I thought that maybe we could hold a family type run and raise money that way. I don't know, but maybe we could hold one every year on the Parent Alienation Day in Des Moines. I like the idea of running ads in the local papers, not the big ones like the Register or anything, rather, the small home town ones where people actually read the ads. That too would get the message out. I thought about printing a fact every week and having people come to this website for more information. Just some ideas.


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Well,

We have a HUGE event on April 21st in DSM for Parental Alienation Day.  Everyone that is anyone and has the ability to get push, pull, or drag themselves and others must be at the Des Moines Civic Center, 12-4pm on that Saturday for our event.  A large showing will empower our new members and show news audiences (and the legislature) that we are a growing group that is very unhappy with the tragedy needlessly applied to our children.

I can't be there because the SURGE changed R&R requirements but I am doing everything I can to get quality speakers there for you thanks to my airline miles.  Please take every opportunity get people to this event as it will be a major milestone for this movement.
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Urgent Message SF 507

Call and e-mail your Democratic Senator and Michael Gronstal. Ask them to get SF 507 to the Senate floor for debate and vote. We are down to hours to get this done!!

Michael Gronstal,
                        e-mail       michael.gronstal@legis.state.ia.us
                        home phone   712-328-2808
                        Capitol phone 515-281-3901

If SF 507 does not come to the Senate floor for vote we will find out who put the ax to the bill. Several auto-dialer's will be turned on in the districts for those responsible for killing the bill. The auto-dialer's will run until those responsible are no longer in office!! I talked to a man this AM that can get us a deal on several auto-dialer's. Upon the killing of SF 507 a head count will be taken to see how many we need for the Senate.

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I left a message for Senator Gronstal on his home phone.  I see his capital phone is full so messages may not get through.

My personal autodialer now has FOUR separate lines.  They are expandable to 32 lines which work best with a T1 line.  But I can't do this alone!

Regardless, if we just buy one per major city in Iowa (about 10 machines) we could definitely change the state.  I have paid for two so far and mine is able to call the entire city of DSM in less than one month's time as it calls 4000 people per day!  The other autodialers are capable of calling 1000 per day with a single line.

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I emailed Senator Harkin just now.

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MIKE GRONSTAL is up for reelection next year! 

If we want to make a statement we need to go after somebody.  Mike is singlehandily stopping our bill from a debate or a vote. 

After talking Tony Taylor, I've come to the conclusion we need to concentrate on only a few this next election. 

I propose we go after Mike Gronstal as our number one target.  If we turn on one autodialer for his Senate District we can run a nonstop negative campaign against him in rather conservative Council Bluffs.  We can get him out!

We need Yard Signs and members from that area.  We may have to run radio adds to find some new members or we can get with Congressman Steve King to get a person in that area.


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Ken, how did you find out that he is the one who singlehandedly did this?

I am not in that district, I don't think.  Where is he located?
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Mike is the Majority Leader and only he can schedule a bill for open debate once it has passed the committee which it did 17-0.  He is from CB.

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Well, I emailed him too, but I will call also.

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So here we have a system where suposivly the majority rules, we have a unanomous vote to discuss something yet due to one person acting like a Nazi won't open the discusion because he's afraid the senate might do the right thing and pass it. And we call our system a democracy. What a Joke. No wonder our country is in the toilet when we let pansys like this be in charge. Although I bet this would make great propaganda against this fellow when the mud starts flying next time he's up for election.


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I e-mailed him, too!


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My two cents is in his mailbox.


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Michael Gronstal still has time to the right thing. If not, we are done playing patty-cake with legislators that give empty promises. Children need both parents!!


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Did you all meet with him when you lobbied at the capital this week?

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He isn't going to do it and he was aware of our threats to go after bad legislators before he did it.  The point I am making is he doesn't believe we can make that much of a dent and his core constituencies are very much against us.  This was a "no brainer" for him given those circumstances.

No matter what we do at this point he is not going to schedule this for an up or down vote.  We need to make a decision to go after him in a way to demonstrate we are serious.  If we can't knock him out of office then we aren't worth our salt.
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Let's schedule a meeting with Congressman Steve King ASAP. The members that are from the Council Bluffs area need to contact Bryan immediately.

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Somebody in Iowa needs to call the CB office for Steve King as well as Gronstal's 2004 opponent, Mr. Loren Knauss, as he received 10,413 votes to Gronstal's 12,480 - not a strong win for Gronstal.

The plan is simple - get a location and sent one autodialer to build a IowaFathers.com chapter and run a negative hatchet job on Gronstal for his conduct regarding SF507.

I can't do it from Iraq and we don't have a lot going on in Western Iowa yet.  But, we need to kick things into high gear if we are to do this campaign.
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Michael Gronstal has to be one of the most terrible legislators in the world for not bring up SF 507. Enjoy your reigh of terror on good loving parents. You will not be re-elected. I pray and hope the divorce industry does not happen to your family Michael!! We will make sure the honest ones in your district know what you did against good loving non-custodial parents. Keep your answer machine on Michael. It was your choice for this to happen. Yes, the truth will be heard in District 50!!

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GONG GRONSTAL IN DISTRICT 50

I thought of that while my children where in the tavern this weekend Michael!! Support SF 507. Children need both parents!!

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GONG GRONSTAL - crack me up.  That's beautiful.

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If we were to oust him think of the statement that would make. I think we may have found our next battle.


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I think we have indeed but I want to see the group buy the autodialer it will take as I am not moving the one from DSM considering it is dialing up a storm already.  The one in CR is going into action soon (I pray) so we need the group to get behind this and purchase another autodialer.  I am sure the next step will have Bryan, Tony, and Charlie Romstad running to CB after we contact Mike Gronstal's 2004 opponent to find some additional people who surely want to defeat Gronstal at any price. 

The next step is for us to identify a meeting place for our group and then install the autodialer in the sponsor's home and smile & dial as they say....

Our messages will both build a new chapter there (with once a month meetings requiring Tony or Bryan to run out there while we build) and slam Gronstal.  We will do a lot of damage to him over the course of time including earned media in response to the calls.  Additionally, we will have to help his future opponent(s) with their yard signs and more importantly, our own iowafathers.com negative yard signs like we did against Pelton.  Just imagine Mike Gronstal's name here instead.  Last time we purchased 100 small signs.  I calculate we need at least 300 small signs and 20 large signs so our budget for signs alone must be around $1,500+.  Don't worry that is the final stage and we have a long time for that phase. 




Autodialers have minimal residual costs ($20 per month for the line) and it will prospect for new members every day rain or shine and it lacks emotion.  If it successfully reaches only one new member per 1000 calls we will have found 20 new members in less than a month.  I like our odds and I am sure an active group in CB can pay for their own yard signs!  Get my point?

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The plan is simple and very easy to execute.  The question I have for the group is likewise simple enough.   Is the group purchasing the next autodialer so we can get this started?

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I have my weekly donation ready to go, but I'm stalling because I want to earmark it for auto-dialers if we are going to set up a separate account for one. 

Has any action been taken for separate fund-raising?

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Ice, thanks for the last donation.  No, as a PAC, everything is placed into one account and every donation is listed upon receipt and every expense has an expenditure label. The Board decides where to utilize the donations and the Treasurer (or President) makes the purchase and Treasurer records everything.


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Thanks for explaining how that works.  I will go ahead and send my donation in then!

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"Political reasons have not the requisite certainty to afford juridical interpretation. They are different in different men. They are different in the same men at different times. And when a strict interpretation of the Constitution, according to the fixed rules which govern the interpretation of laws, is abandoned, and the theoretical opinions of individuals are allowed to control its meaning, we have no longer a Constitution; we are under a government of individual men, who for the time being have the power to declare what the Constitution is, according to their own views of that it ought to mean." Dred Scott v.Sanford, 19 How. 393, 620 (1857) (Curtis, J., dissenting).
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Please remove all corruption from our family court system.  Please allow parents the opportunity to raise children according to your commandments.

Lord, on a daily basis Satin further beds himself into the hearts of judges and legislators, blinding them to the damage they are doing. I pray for them and for those who are most affect by these demonic actions.

Lord, I ask that you open the hearts to all Christians because only through you Lord, can we combat the evilness from Satin that has taken ahold of our country.

In Jesus Christ I pray.

Amen!
 

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Date:Thu, 5 Apr 2007 11:44:47 -0700 (PDT)
From:"IowaFathers.com" support@iowafathers.com
Subject:Re: FW: SF 507
To:"Nelson, Charlotte [DHR]" , "IowaFathers.com" , michael.gronstal@legis.state.ia.us
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Mrs. Nelson,
 
I agree that judges SHOULD be deciding cases on an individual bases. Senate File 507 does not prevent a judge from looking at the specific facts of each case. Nor does it prevent a judge from deviating from joint physical care.  In fact, it encourages the judges to look at the facts of each case rather then the current practice of Judges rubbing stamping child custody cases. 
 
“Courts are supposed to approach cases of child custody, support payments, and visitation rights in what we call a gender-neutral posture. It sounds fair, and it is fair. But it is a myth. Judges are not enforcing these gender laws fairly, and few seem to care” -- Judge Judy Sheindlin.
 
Want more proof judges are rubber stamp cases, you need look no further then the fact that women received physical placement in 84.4% of the cases and men 15.6% (Source: U.S. Census Bureau, released February 2005). 
 
Furthermore, when we targeted the retention of Judge Charles Pelton last year, he was only able to provide TEN (10) cases where he awarded the father primary placement.   Are you telling me that ten (10) cases in over a thirty year span on the bench is gender neutral decisions?  Are you telling me that only ten (10) fathers before him were qualified to raise their children?  

A study just released by UNICEF ranked the top 21 wealthiest countries in the world on their children’s well being.  The United States received the second worst ranking (20 out of 21), citing divorce and the number of children being raised in single-parent households as major risk factors. Click here for the UNICEF Report Card 7, released in 2007.
 
A recent survey, The Changing Shape of the American Family, found that “Nearly nine in ten (88%) of U.S. adults say divorce has a negative impact on maintaining a stable American family life.”
 
One of the most important steps for reducing conflict in a divorce is for state legislatures to enact clearer guidelines for determining custody (Custody Disputed by Emery, Robert E.; Otto, Randy K.; O'donohue, William. Scientific American Mind; 2005, Vol. 16 Issue 3, p64-67, 4p, 1bw).
 
80% of children with divorcing or divorced parents experience some form of Parental Alienation.  20% of these children experience such behaviors at least once a day (Source: American Bar Association).
 
Nationwide, the number of children living without their father has exceeded 25 million. In Iowa , Polk County is contributing 21,000 children to this national statistic. The rates of fatherless children are increasing due to divorce and children born out of wedlock. Children whose fathers are actively involved have better social and economic outcomes (Source: Polk County Fatherhood Initiative, January 2006).
 
All thirty-three comparative studies in the U.S. comparing the outcomes of children in joint physical care to those in the care of only one parent found that children in joint physical care have better outcomes. (“Child Custody in Joint-Custody Versus Sole Custody Arrangements…” by Dr. Robert Bauserman, published in Journal of Family Psychology, 2002, Vol 16, No 1).
 
International comparative research demonstrates that by all twenty-six accepted measures of child well-being, children in joint physical care have better outcomes than children in the care of only one parent (Father and Child Reunion, Dr. Warren Farrell, Tarcher/Putman, 2001).
 
Around 1400 families split up in Polk County last year. Statistically, 427 sets of parents reside in the same zip code, the average number of children per separation is 1.5, and the average age of the children was 5 years old (Source: Polk County Fatherhood Initiative, January 2006).
 
Research supports that children with equal access to both parents have better outcomes in life.  Yet every year we lobby for legislative change requesting our fundamental rights afforded us by the Constitution of the United States of America , in an effort to receive equality from the judicial branch.  Please visit IowaFathers.com for more information.
 
Where is your research to support your claim?  Every year, groups like yours with their "anti-male mentality" and who receive federal and state funding oppose such legislation.  Why?  The real reason is self-preservation.
 
The fact remains, ANY State Agency receiving federal or state funding that provides false information to legislators while lobbying is in serious legal trouble.  You can disagree with the need for Senate File 507, but when you are telling legislators that this bill does not allow judges the ability to deviate from awarding joint physical care, you are flat out providing false information (LYING) to legislators!!!  Is Deceit and Collusion occurring?   One must question this because obviously it would take someone with a very low mental capacity to actually agree with your lobbying arguments, which are in total disparity with what research supports.
 
If Senator Gronstal blocks the bill from coming to the floor for a vote (we have the votes for it to pass), after giving us his word he would bring the bill up for a vote, his days as a state legislator are numbered as IowaFathers.com will start campaigning against him immediately. Ironic how the major contributors to Sen. Gronstal's campaign were lawyers from Davenport and that some required reports are not listed with the Iowa Ethics and Campaign Disclosure Board isn't it?   What would the voters in his district say about that? 
 
Non-custodial parents are no longer going to tolerate this type of discriminative treatment from both legislators and judges!  Perhaps Dateline NBC, 60 Minutes, or 20/20 would like to pick this story up?   
 
Sincerely,
Bryan Iehl
Founder
P.O. Box 2884
Waterloo, IA  50704-2884
 
 
 
 

"Nelson, Charlotte [DHR]" <CHARLOTTE.NELSON@iowa.gov> wrote:
Dear Mr. Iehl:
 
I must respectfully disagree with your characterization of the impact of the proposed legislation.  SF507 would fundamentally change the determination as to physical care from a neutral decision reached by a judge considering the evidence submitted by both parents, to a predetermined outcome, subject only to rebuttal by the parent opposing joint physical care. As previously stated, ICSW believes that judges should decide whether or not joint physical care is in the best interest of the child.
 
Sincerely,
 
Charlotte Nelson
 
 
 
Charlotte Nelson
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Iowa Commission on the Status of Women
Department of Human Rights
Lucas State Office Building
Des Moines, IA 50319
515/281-4467 or 800/558-4427
 
 
Email correspondence to and from this address may be subject to the Iowa Public Records Law, Code of Iowa Chapter 22, and may be disclosed to third parties.

From: IowaFathers.com [mailto:support@iowafathers.com]
Sent: Wednesday, March 28, 2007 12:23 PM
To: Nelson, Charlotte [DHR]; IowaFathers.com
Cc: Appel, Staci [LEGIS] ; Espinoza, Carla R. [Regents]; Winckler, Cindy [LEGIS] ; FJJGIUNTA@MSN.COM; holly@scifl.org; jolsen@marion.k12.ia.us; Johnson [IA County Recorder] ; wissingm@yahoo.com; Mike Whitlatch ; Reed, Walter [DHR] ; sue mullins ; Carnahan, Tom [IWD]; Ward, Petricia [LEGIS]
Subject: RE: SF 507
 
Ms. Nelson,
 
The law still allows judges to protect the children in cases where there is domestic abuse or when such an arrangement would put the children in harms way.  If that is your only concern, please revisit the bill as it truly is a non-issue given the following language: " If the court finds by clear and convincing evidence that joint physical care is not in the best interest of the child and denies the request for joint physical care, the determination shall be accompanied by specific findings of fact and conclusions of law that the awarding of joint physical care is not in the best interest of the child.”
 
“Children with two parents who actively and positively engage in their life by providing financial support, love, guidance and discipline, have a greater chance for success than children who receive an active involvement from only one parent”  – former Iowa Governor, Thomas J. Vilsack.
 
"Part of ending sexism involves eliminating the inhuman practice of awarding a parent ‘visitation’ to his or her own child" -- Karen DeCrow, past president of the National Organization for Women (NOW).
 
Sincerely,
Bryan Iehl
Founder
P.O. Box 2884
Waterloo , IA   50704-2884

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Notice how she dropped the abuse argument and now just states that she doesn't want judges to have laws to follow. I guess having judges not follow laws has been beneficial to Ms. Nelson's people. I don't like Bill O'Reilly, but this is one of those political spins he speaks of if I ever saw one.
 
   Hey Bryan, could you write and ask her for a couple of examples why she would think that joint physical care in circumstances where both parents are fit would not be in the best interest of the child? I wonder if she feels that the child needs both a mother and a father and equally so? I would be curious at her answer.

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People in Iowa are brainwashed and the "do gooders" think nothing can be done.  This is why I moved out of Iowa to California as a young adult where I was a union steward for numerous years until my retirement.  I moved back to Iowa and guess what, the people in Iowa have not changed. Guess what, for every action there is an opposite reaction and in this case there should be consequences. The leaders of this organization have a goal and I believe they will achieve it because they are not like the majority of Iowans!

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SF 507 is dead.

Democrats pleased with plan's progress

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Democratic legislative leaders say all parts of their Plan for Prosperity have either been approved or have successfully cleared Friday's ``funnel'' deadline.

However, several proposals Democratic lawmakers hoped to pass in their first session in control of the Legislature in 14 years face an uncertain future as they head toward a scheduled April 27 adjournment.

Civil rights for lesbian, gay, bisexual and transgender Iowans? ``We don't have 51 votes at this point,'' House Speaker Pat Murphy, D-Dubuque, said.

Fair share? ``Well, it's eligible until the end of the session,'' Murphy said.

Property tax relief? ``You'll see something,'' he said.

Gas tax increase? ``More unlikely than likely,'' said House Majority Leader Kevin McCarthy, D-Des Moines.

New regulations of livestock operations? ``I'll be honest, this isn't something that is part of our Plan for Prosperity,'' Murphy said.

The Plan for Prosperity included the minimum wage increase (passed), health insurance options for small businesses (passed), raising the cigarette tax (passed), raising teacher pay (passed), providing funds for early childhood education (passed), providing incentives for biofuels (pending), reducing the commercial property tax burden (pending) and limiting college tuition to no more then the rate of inflation (pending).

``We're doing a great job of succeeding in passing priorities in the face of extreme partisanship, constant partisan bickering and an overall atmosphere of politics as usual from the other side of the aisle,'' McCarthy said. ``We're doing our best to rise above that.''

The big problem is Democrats' high expectations -- ``higher than we can achieve,'' Murphy added.

``It's the first time the Democrats have had control of the Senate in 10 years, the first time in 14 years in the House and the first time in 42 years since we had control of everything,'' he said.

Leaders weren't concerned about any bills that didn't make the second funnel deadline, which requires bills to have passed one chamber and a committee in the other. (SF 507 was one)

That said, numerous bills are in limbo with sponsors working to get 51 votes. Murphy made clear he doesn't plan to bring up bills to see them ``fail in futility.''

On the other hand, Sen. Tom Courtney, D-Burlington, said the funnel isn't carved in stone.

``We can change it as we need to change it,'' he said. ``If there are issues that need to be dealt with, we're going to deal with them and the funnel won't hold us up.''

In some cases, such as proposals to change Iowa's nickel deposit ``bottle bill'' and enact stricter air and water quality regulations for animal feeding operations, House leadership re-referred the bill to the Ways and Means Committee -- an automatic exemption from the funnel deadline. Other issues can escape the deadline if leaders bring them up as ``leadership bills.''

Other issues, such as a bill to require school grounds to be smoke-free and another to create a crime of indecent exposure by webcam, both which failed to funnel, may be revived as amendments to other bills.

Murphy said House Democrats have caucused on the livestock regulations. ``We have a lot of our caucus interested. We just have to see if we can reach a consensus as to what will get 51 votes,'' he said.

Among bills slipping in just under the wire Thursday was one to protect the U.S. flag from desecration and another to establish safety standards for cigarettes.



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Among bills slipping in just under the wire Thursday was one to protect the U.S. flag from desecration and another to establish safety standards for cigarettes.


Holly crap cigarettes are bad for you. Naw my daughter was sentenced by a judge to breath second hand smoke from her mother in a custody case. It can't be bad for you. Shows where the priorties of the state are doesn't it. If we can make money off it do it. Cigarette tax wont stop people from smoking, but forcing a child to live with a parrent who smokes may cause some to start, esp when a nonsmoker is available and willing to take them.

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