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I wonder if it is mere coincidence that my son smokes since he lived with his mother who also smokes? 

Mmm???  Connection???

Perhaps a smoking parents should be discriminated against in custody court?  I like that idea as at very least the children will be far less likely to smoke.  In addition, I am sure that little change in the custody law would give custody to fathers well above 50% of the time!
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Chaps my butt that I have to pay child support so her mom can smoke then I have to pay the insurance and half the med bills caused by the cigarettes I have to pay for. What a country.

Back on track though Is their any other way to get this brought up? What if this jerk was to say miss a session would their be a second in command to bring it up? If so I'm sure we could arrange for this moron to be absent, I mean offer free golf or free booze to the guy.

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If it helps, there is a Daniels case that you could look up here in Iowa. It was the one that took my wife's kids away and it dealt with smoking. Look it up and see. Just because my wife smoked at the time doesn't mean she was or is an unfit parent. My ex smokes and I know that's where my child support goes. It also chaps my @ss that she spends the money on boyfriends and sex toys too. It's not just cigarettes. I quit smoking way back in 2002, so it's not like I'm defending smoking. I'm just saying that there are other things to be worried about other than just cigarettes.


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I think the point is that "SMOKING" is so evil they have to abolish it with draconian measures on one hand but they don't consider it one iota when dealing with custody issues?  That alone is enough of a contradiction but when you factor in the abhorrent decision to spend precious legislative time on cigarrettes rather than issues tearing children from their fathers it demonstrates our Democratic legislature is oblivious the plight of children.  Oh, they care about children as long as somebody else is paying and they get their "cut" but giving children both parents is not on their agenda considering the welfare state is the only way Democrats remain in office to begin with.


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Taking a look at the laws that have been passed so far this session, I really don't see any pro family legislation at all. The Democrats claim that they had an agenda when they took office and obviously our families weren't part of that agenda. They claim that raising the minimum wage was helpful to families. I disagree as that too was a tax raise in sheep's clothing. Most people who earn minimum wage are single people who can afford to live on minimum wage and by giving them a raise, you raised their taxable income too. It's like our county declaring that they weren't going to raise property taxes, but raised property values instead! We need to focus our attention towards the next legislative cycle and demand that our legislators give priority to our families for once. Family law is in dire need of fixing and just because fixing broken families won't bring extra revenue into the state coffers doesn't mean that our problems should be ignored. We need to launch this public education campaign and see just how many legislators we can get to sign on to support our families in the next session.


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You know Eric,  I'm a registered Democrat and have been most of my life.  Sadly, I've come to the conclusion recently that Democrats can not vote according to their beliefs as the party does not allow independent thinkers. 

I have family (siblings) spread throughout the Cedar Valley.  My family has always support Sen. Dotzler and Sen. Danielson.  It may be time for me to reevaluate what is most important and vote accordingly. 

It's time to contact my fellow brothers within the UAW and specific individuals such as Jerry Northey and reevaluate who the union supports next election cycle.  With the Court System out-of-control and Child Support at an all time high, job wage & benefits are losing ground as a priority because they can not keep up with governmental interference.

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I understand. I was a Democrat out of high school, then because of Clinton, I decided to become Republican, mainly because I liked Pat Buchanan at the time. After G.W. started doing some things that I didn't agree with, I too came to the conclusion that I really didn't belong in either party because party loyalty doesn't allow you to vote your conscience and that bothers me. I am a registered independent, with pro-life Libertarian leanings. How's that for a mouth full? I figure if I stay independent, I am more apt to be listened to because both sides want my vote. If I belonged to a certain party, then the opposition wouldn't be interested in me. I'll work with any party to get a solution to the problem.


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I have always been an active Republican but I am at the point to consider a third party to make our point that this issue is that important.

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You make a great point.  We have many UAW members belonging to our group and this could make the union consider our issue, which in turn forces legislators to look at the bigger picture.

FYI: I know several John Deere workers who want me to meet with some prominent union officials and I have agreed.

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You have an excellent idea Winston!! Michael Gronstal and any legislator going against children forced into the "Divorce Industry" will be held accountable. I find it unbelievable Gronstol is a Catholic and is so against children. Michael has chosen to make sure his District knows children will be continued to be used as weapons. I'm sure voters in his District voted for him and did not know he would treat children in such an inhuman manor. Answer your phone Michael, the auto-dialer will be telling the voters in your District the truth. Being an activist against children is a terrible accomplishment as a legislator Michael. Remember 2,067 was not that many extra votes to win. Let the auto-dialer tell the truth. Sorry Michael, this was your decision, don't blame anyone else.
                                             

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I didn't realize he was Catholic. Certainly, he doesn't represent the Catholic faith, none of us really do. However, I would think that the senator would wish to support the family, but it appears he places his party first. I guess he's chosen which master he serves.


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I noticed on the Senate log the other day that a lot of bills that had passed committee, including SF507, were sent back to their committees. I found this odd. I wrote my senator and asked him what this meant and here was his reply today;

Eric,

 

This simply means that the bills are still alive for consideration or amendment next session – Jan. 08.  Thanks  - Brian

 So, I guess this means that SF507 can be reconsidered next January which gives us 9 months of lobbying to do. I still think we need to push our legislators to put Iowa's families first next session and we should demand fixes to family law in our state. We first need to prove to the legislators, and the public, that the system as it currently is, is broken. Our top law should be one to prevent CP's from taking children away from the NCP. I think Judy is going to cover some of this at the rally. I hope we can come together and get something done. I have invited Tom Chapman from the Iowa Catholic Conference to come to the rally. I have yet to hear from him. He seemed really interested in helping in this field.


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Eric, I would be happy to DOUBLE invite him to the rally!

I am so SO happy that you found out what you did about the SF still being alive in January, and YES we should ABSOLUTELY 100%, without a doubt do some more lobbying in Des Moines for this piece of legislation.  Let's not procrastinate though.

I would love to plan a trip to the capitol building soon.  With enough notice, I can get time off work to go.
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Yeah, it's the same old game that our veteran members know all to well.  Next year, my goal is to show up at the Capitol with at very minimum, one thousand members.  If we do, NBC, ABC, CBS will have our movement as their "Top Story." 

With 45,000 visitors a month, this is a realistic goal that WILL happen!!!

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You tell me the date and time, and my husband and I will be there!

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Same old story different names and different year.

I will point out the Democratic Party has consistently been the enemy of this movement.
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Take Child Activist Michael Gronstal out of office and be noticed. This is the only way. I have been at this to many years to be told otherwise. I pray that someday they are not his grandchildren. Gronstal is a coward and can not stand on his own two feet. What does the Iowa Bar Ass. have against you Michael? Also, please make a public statement on why you are against the child.


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That is absolutely correct regarding what it will take to get the legislature's attention.  I made some preliminary inquires in Council Bluffs and I can report I have a location for a single line autodialer.  I shelved it for a week or so because I am about ready to purchase a 24 line state of the art digital dialer.  This machine uses a T1 line and can call 50,000 people per day if the message is less than 30 seconds.  It is much more efficient and versatile than the analog dialers I have been using and can call anywhere in the United States for a set rate much less than normal rates.   So the question remains if we are going to do it from Des Moines or put a different autodialer in CB.  I am doing the math to see if it is feasible. 

What I can tell everyone is Gronstal is going to feel the effect of his action and I predict he will not be a state senator next session.
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Resign and save yourself the public embarassment of the truth foul mouth and lier Mikey Gronstal. Only a coward such as you would use a child as a weapon. Your roller-coaster is heading down hill fast, straight to hell.


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He's not going to resign as he is a top leader in the Democratic Party.  We have to knock him out ourselves.  One autodialer in CB running for over a year may do the trick though.

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Mikeys wife would for sure divorce him if she heard and saw what he  had accomplished undercover. Sorry Connie, thought you should know. What a slime bag!!!


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Don't count on that as people in such positions endure about anything to keep power and status.  Is there something out there worth reporting other than his arrogance and lies?

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This post is in regards to Senate File 507:
Vince Bechtel,Taufeek Shah,John and I went to the capitol yesterday.
First of all the legislators are more likely to be present in the middle of the week.The session ends on Thursday early and this is because they all go back to their hometown for the weekend and some of them live far from Des Moines.The best time to come here is Tuesday and Wednesday.
I have for the first time experienced being able to talk to the legislators.
First of all I found that there is no reason this file cannot pass the senate and go to the house.Second it is going to take getting fathers down in the capitol to accomplish this.
I have a few suggestions that I think will be the way to get this file to become a bill and then pass the house.I will outline these below and I would like your feedback soon because if we want this file to become a bill and pass this session we have the month of February and march to get this done and the process is not going to be easy.
1.Forget about Senator Gronstal we need to present positive feedback to the members of the judiciary committee and then the members of the senate and then we can accomplish this job.
2.We need scientific data to prove that the absence of a father causes all kinds of negativities on the children.I will provide these by getting all available articles from reliable medical journals and we will provide these to the legislators.If anyone of you have articles or clippings or news about this issue please forward copies of those to Taufeek Shah address 2107 SW Sugarberry CT Ankeny Ia 50023.
3.We need written testimonial from all the fathers the more the better we were told about 150 would be strong but anything below this will do as well.If you do not have JPC you need to write down what would it do if you have JPC.How will this affect you and your children to have access to your children as much as the other partner does.Please only positive things that can happen.Do not even worry about what negative things you have gone through.
4.We need testimonials from fathers who have JPC.You need to write down how having JPC have affected your life and your children's life in all the positive ways.We need to document how this situation has made the difference from not having JPC to having JPC.It is important for our goal specially what it had done to the children's physical growth and development as well as mental and psychological aspect.
5.Because of the current issues on privacy we need to make sure that you are willing to share those with us and with the legislators if you are able to come down to the capitol and share them personally that is even better and if not if you have those written testimonials and you allow us to share those with the legislators that would be great.
6.For those of you who live in the Des Moines area you may come to the capitol as a group.One representative asked us where are all our constituents.There were 3 fathers and a grandmother that's me.
We need as much constituents as possible to make our cause heard.
7.If you need help with transportation please call Taufeek at 5155540824.
You can also call Vince Bechtel at 5159796672.You can also call me at 3192907458.
We cannot wait too long since the session ends April 22.
8.You can also talk to your senators when they come home to your home town.You can ask to see them on the weekend when they are in your home town.
If we have to work on this to get this pass in this session we need to act quick and not waste time.
Please be advised that I am a grandmother I am not a father but your parents ,your sisters and your friends can be a big asset to our case.As a family the only way we can have a relationship with your sons and daughters is when you have your scheduled visitation with your children.As a grandmother I have only been able to see my grandson when my son has him for the scheduled visitation.
JPC will help your children know their family better.
The essence of family is very important in the development of our children's lives.
I hope that this posting will reach every member of this organization and I am so very optimistic after talking to our representatives that with unity among us and perseverance we will win.
We need to focus on how to get the positive effects of JPC to the whole country and we may be the leader on getting this a universal right.
Please help us in our quest to get this file moving at this session.
We cannot get this file moving if we concentrate on putting the leadership in the senate down.We need scientific data,we need bodies of fathers or mothers,we need testimonials if you cannot come.We need positive testimonial,we need positive attitudes and we need positive people to come and put the evidence in our legislators plates.
We cannot dwell on the negative constituents who has told our legislators lies about fathers.We cannot dwell on negative people.
I am very optimistic after talking to our legislators that we should be able to get this file moving with your help.
Pleas call Bryan or get together with fathers or mothers that you know who are eager to have JPV and come down to Des Moines or call us and have your testimonials sent to us.We need them now and we need bodies if available.
We need all of you to get this file on the floor and we need you now and maybe if we can get this on the house floor we can all ask to  be heard on the floor to give our own testimonials.Remember our goal is the best interest of the children not you not the mothers and not the grandparents.THE CHILDREN.
We need to put aside our emotions on this we need to present facts and we need everything to support these facts.
Thank you and I am here to help but my voice as a grandmother is not going to be enough.


 

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Carmelita, I believe you live in Winthrop, right? If you do, then you and I share the same state senator, Brian Schoenjahn, and he sits on the judiciary committee. I've tried to get through to him and he just ignores me anymore. Maybe you'd have better luck. I've written to him a couple of times here recently and haven't heard a word back from him. When we got his flyer in the mail recently, it was addressed to my wife, and not me like before, so I assume I'm on his ignore list now. I've been pushing him politely to help our cause and he really seems to care less. Hopefully you can change his heart.



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Eric ,
There is a scheduled public forum that Mr.Schoenjahn has scheduled at the Fayette Public Library on 2/2 2008.You can maybe take some time to do to this meeting.
What you need to do is make sure that you are going to talk to him about how JPC is going to help your children.If you have any article from any magazine or newspaper that would help prove how JPC is going to affect the parents and more importantly the children that would be the best way to approach this issue.
I will be gone for 2 weeks in February and will not be able to go but if I do not leave on the second I may attend this public forum.


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Carmelita, I can't go. I am not in good health and am pratically homebound. I'd go if I could. I got a robo call from Senator Schoenjahn tonight. I was hoping it was him personally. I also wanted to say that I agree with your plan of attack. Making this about the children rather than us puts the legislators on the spot and if we can back this with solid proof and testimonials, then it will sort of force the legislators hands. I would hope that is the direction that we'll take.


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Mr Schoenjahn who is a senator from my district will be coming by my home in winthrop this Thursday on his way home from Des moines.
I would like some input on some of you who are knowledgeable about this file and if anyone wants to come to my home I will post the time that he will be here as soon as he tells me when he is coming.
I understand he is a member of the judiciary committee.

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I think this is a great opportunity for any of our members who can attend. I will see if my wife can make the trip. The alternator just went out of our van today and if it's back up by then, I bet she'd go. I'd like to go just to ask him why he keeps ignoring me lately.


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Not sure how to read this, but this bill also is like the one SF 235. That one shows this as the last three actions:

SF 235 - Last 3 Actions:
Feb. 20 07 Introduced, referred to Judiciary. S.J. 417.
Feb. 21 07 Subcommittee, Kreiman, Schoenjahn, and Ward. S.J. 453.

* * * END OF 2007 ACTIONS * * *
 
Which one has the better chance of moving, SF 507 or SF 235? Schoenjahn is sitting on this one if I read correctly. SOme clarification would be greatly appreciated, and maybe Carmelita can get it when she visits with the Senator on Thursday?


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